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Nax
Oct 17, 2013 21:09:41 GMT -5
Post by Sandy on Oct 17, 2013 21:09:41 GMT -5
Nax, please post your Questions/Statements to Animal, Brenda & Joe.
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Oct 18, 2013 18:16:03 GMT -5
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Post by nax on Oct 18, 2013 18:16:03 GMT -5
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Post by cody on Oct 19, 2013 1:11:52 GMT -5
Oh God, I am so awkward at the beginning and end. Lmao.
Couple of notes: 1:40- I said, "I created..." the #AnimalHouse alliance, but I'm pretty sure it was mainly Woods (with me giving input on who to include)
4:56- Going into the merge, I had a loyalty to Ricky and Nicole... I didn't fully explain this: part of the reason I grew so close to them was because a] Woods wasn't in the game anymore, b] I wasn't positive where Jermaine's loyalty was, and c] I was bitter Brenda voted out Zack since he was my showmance-buddy lol.
5:27- I said Ricky/Nicole could have done something tricky like not split their votes or vote for someone to "tie it up" but they also could have just used Nicole's double vote for a majority.
6:51- "they didn't want Woods to use the Express or whatever" meaning they didn't want him to use it during the Untouchables twist and if we had to go to TC during the Untouchables twist, Jermaine/Joe didn't wanna have to vote between them and me (and Woods who would have used his Express Pass).
8:38 and on- wow I am so awkward.
Anyway thanks for your question, Nax! Good luck with your decision and as always if you have anything else you'd like to add on, feel free to ask more.
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Post by joe on Oct 19, 2013 20:19:33 GMT -5
Apologies of the video is at all choppy.
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Post by Brenda on Oct 20, 2013 21:23:26 GMT -5
This is the first ... and last video I'll ever do At the very least now you know ... I'm not ancient
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Post by nax on Oct 21, 2013 5:15:22 GMT -5
Brenda and Joe - thank you both for stepping out of your comfort zone and letter 'er rip on camera. Neither one of you gave me short, pat answers, and you both showed a real vigor for this game that I can appreciate. Joe, while you did some serious rambling, I at least got the gist of your message - your argument was a good one. Brenda, you have convinced me you didn't sit on your hands the whole game, and that's what I was looking to hear from you. You came off sounding very defensive, and, well... I guess I can understand why. You have no reason to be defensive, however - you made a good case, and I will certainly take it into account. Animal, you're not getting quite the same love, but then I think we both know that you have no trouble shining for the little glass lens. Again, thanks to all three of you, and I look forward to live TC!
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Nax
Oct 21, 2013 16:09:55 GMT -5
Post by reeki on Oct 21, 2013 16:09:55 GMT -5
Sidenote: You claiming or not claiming to have the idol brenda, had -nothing- to do with anything. That's why the plan was to split the votes between YOU and Woods, so if you had it and used it on him, you'd go home. Point I'm trying to make is Animal / Joe / Jermainey were the reason Nicole went home -- you had nothing to do with it, your lying wasn't apart of any problem solving in that round. I'd even go as far to say that it was my stupidty to give up the votes, because we had them.
Huge props should actually be thrown to Animal, who was cut-throat and threw a knife at Nicole right infront of her eyes when one of the people who helped devise the plan actually executed Nicole's termination.
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Nax
Oct 21, 2013 18:17:43 GMT -5
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Post by Woods on Oct 21, 2013 18:17:43 GMT -5
side note... Actually, without me... nicole wouldn't have went home. It was my amulet that made that all possible. Thanks to my redemption cove dominance and huge rupee bank account... end side note
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Nax
Oct 21, 2013 20:28:55 GMT -5
Post by joe on Oct 21, 2013 20:28:55 GMT -5
Yeah, I'm sorry to interject, but I think Animal's contribution to what happened is being given far too much credit. I'm not claiming to have orchestrated that F10 in any way whatsoever, but as I've said elsewhere, I believe I started to get the ball rolling on the idea of Nicole going because of the threat she posed with her auction items. I went back and reviewed a conversation on Facebook I had with Woods, having spoken at around 11 in the morning the day that the auction items were revealed, in which Woods suggest Brookie going to cut the dead weight (c/ping FB convos is awkward...):
Me: I guess I also wanna know what you're thinking for this vote. Ricky last night said Brookie. But her name always gets brought up.
Woods: yea, seriously. now, my thoughts REALISTICALLY... v.s. what happens in this game are two different things lol
Me: Lol.
Woods: what I think should happen... Brookie. its time to cut the f*n dead weight and play ball but im sure something shady will go down
Joe: Ideally, someone of the Ricky trio would go (and Nicole's extra vote scares me).
Woods: yeah. it really does I was thinking the same thing but i didnt want to say it
Also, from what I remember, Jermaine and I were speaking that evening trying to figure out a way to actually pull this thing off. At which point, Jermaine says, "I can make try to get them to split the votes." Jermaine tells me that he approached you about Woods' amulet, to which you said, "Should we split the votes?" At that point, it was just a matter of agreeing with you. So, I'm sorry, and maybe there is something that I haven't seen or read anywhere yet, but I fail to see how Animal gets credit for this moment in the game when all he it seems he did was pretend to have an alliance with you and Nicole and then vote her out.
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Nax
Oct 21, 2013 20:43:06 GMT -5
Post by cody on Oct 21, 2013 20:43:06 GMT -5
In my opinion, if I didn't "pretend" (it was real btw) to have that alliance with Ricky and Nicole (and Jedda), I'm not sure they would have felt so comfortable splitting the votes. I think part of the reason they believed me so much was not only because I was being honest with them at the time, but because I went on Skype Call with them for hours upon days, which I think that really helped, and it was something you and Brenda didn't do as much to ensure our victory.
And if Jermaine really was the one who orchestrated the splitting of votes, it only made that much more sense to vote him out: which I'm the only one in the final 5 who wanted him to go, other than maybe Brenda. You wanted Jedda to go, and Jedda wanted you to go. Jermaine obviously wanted me to go lol.
I agree that Joe had a pretty big part in deciding which of them should go, but I don't think he was a huge deciding factor in the move itself, like getting the job done: that would likely be due to mine and Jermaine's connections with Ricky and Nicole, and since I knew how much credit Jermaine would get, once we got the Axis of Evil out, I knew Jermaine would be my next biggest target.
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Nax
Oct 21, 2013 20:49:26 GMT -5
Post by joe on Oct 21, 2013 20:49:26 GMT -5
For lack of a desire to clutter up poor Nax's jury thread with information irrelevant to his actual questions, I will save what more I have to say about this for my closing statement.
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Oct 21, 2013 21:03:59 GMT -5
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Post by Woods on Oct 21, 2013 21:03:59 GMT -5
Animal should be given the most credit for that vote because when given the opportunity to save myself... I had to decide who i wanted to give the amulet to to help save myself. I had to weigh my options... and the one person I knew I could trust... was Animal. I didn't want to get Brenda involved because I didnt know how strong she could be when Ricky and them start bullying her about the amulet... and well joe, I didnt trust. So I think Animal deserves credit because without Animal having my trust... me giving animal the amulet and animal giving it back... that never would have went down! Trust & Balls to do what needed to be done!
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Nax
Oct 21, 2013 21:11:38 GMT -5
Post by joe on Oct 21, 2013 21:11:38 GMT -5
Well the thing was that you had to give the amulet away regardless if you ever wanted to use it, and considering the circumstances, you were kind of forced to have to give it to someone. I didn't even want it. We all wanted you to give it to Animal.
I also don't know why I hurt you so bad when I voted you out if you didn't trust me.
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Nax
Oct 21, 2013 21:19:51 GMT -5
Post by Woods on Oct 21, 2013 21:19:51 GMT -5
because trust and respect are two different things... but anyway, lets not fill Nax's post with non-sense!
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Nax
Oct 21, 2013 21:45:49 GMT -5
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Post by reeki on Oct 21, 2013 21:45:49 GMT -5
we only split the votes cause nicole and I are dumb, and we trusted Animal.
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